Posted by
General Guan's Garden on Friday, September 19, 2008 8:00:50 PM
One of the big Issues I hear in any discussion of John McCain recently is that inspite of his war Service, he is no friends to Vets.
Well being one myself , I simply have to take issue with this statement. Due to Campaign Politic's ,Many in the Obama camp are tossing out McCains failure to Vote on the Webb GI Bill and Obama's support of it as Proof and that's not quite accurate.
The really funny thing is ,it is often put forth in various net forums by young folks, who well meaning are simply parroting what they are told without looking into it! The question should be , Why would he do something like that?
Now folks, sometimes you just can't take things at face value, If I tell you something here I fully expect any intelligent person would check what I am saying. Fortunately for some politician's they have loyal throngs who accept their words as Gospel due to the alleged frequent church attendance even though they strangely don't recall what goes on there.
Now, You may not agree but you'll know how I came to my conclusions but I'll point to sources you can easily check. Checking deeper is important to being informed as to picking a candidate unless of course your mindlessly running with a group. When you have a good memory and notice one candidate making claims and statements apparently designed to appeal to whoever he is speaking to at the time. But, judge this for yourself. The following is a clip of Senator Obama talking about Veterans rights and benefits and how important it is to him due to his fathers service in WW2.
The only problem perhaps is that Mr. Obama's father nevered served in WW2 he was in Kenya at the time. Now I know some might say this was just a slip...I often forget my father served when I know he was born in another country and didn't come to the US til years after (In the Kennedy Administration if memory serves)...But maybe just in case you feel I'm being to harsh here is one more example...The Famous claim that Senator Obama's Uncle was one of the first to go into Auschwitz, this story was complete with his recounting the moving family tale of his having seen the horrors and having to spend solace alone in the attic to get over them.
Well those of Us who know this was a fib, *Auschwitz was of course liberated by the Soviet army*. Noticed the GOP pounced on his Lie with a vengence.... However, Due to a Media totally in love with one particular candidate this fire was put out by the news reassuring the puzzled masses of the Obama Campaigns claims that the GOP was making a mountain out of a mole hill...
The senator simply slipped and meant to say his uncle liberated Buchenwald which was liberated by the US and that this is a none issue...but was it???? New Assertions have documented Senator OBama does not in fact have an "Uncle" as his mother was an Only Child! He did in fact have a great Uncle who served in ww2 but before we pass this off as another Misspeak , Please understand The US. NAVY never assisted in Liberating any death camps! So the following clip entitled a lie about a lie is still very much relevant to those who covet truth especially from someone claiming to be a new type of Truthful Politician.
So Now back to McCain and the WEBB GI BILL...
First of all the Webb GI bill was an educational Bill (that's all it was supposed to be anyway). Sen. McCain, who in fact had his own Gi Bill up for Consideration, didn't care for some of the wording not to mention the add on's (earmarks) to the bill.
Obama seized this opportunity to play the Roll of Defender of the Veterans and with righteous indignation, stood to make McCain look like the cold hearted Vet who didn't care!Needless to say McCain having gone through a living hell as a POW, was rightfully insulted being lectured by a man who never served his country, associated with a crowd that really didn't seem to appreciate it (no, no, no, God Damn America) and considering his behaviour in regard to other bills , hadn't shown Concern for Vets where it counted even more (I'll touch on that in a second)!
So what's the whole story?
The whole story was McCain already had a GI Bill of his own and I have to tell you being a Vet ,as much as I like more benefits there comes a time where you have to asl whats the bigger picture here? Not Only did McCain worry about the expense of the bill or it's potential negative impact on retention but in that not additional incentives were there for someone re-uping (Reenlisting) as opposed to someone who just completes their initial enlistment. The cost promised to be Emmense. That's not all, McCain is notoriously against Earmarks (and Folks don't let anyone fool you)... Earmarks drew senators to this bill like Flies!
Not only did folks like senator Obama sign on to it (it not only provided the opportunity to spin around to the home crowd what a pal you are to our servicemen and women , but it got you a nice slice of Pork as well! Alas we come to the real deal.... a roughly 15.6 Billion dollar educational Bill had earmarks placed on to it and brought it to over 200 BILLION in spending for those senators who wanted more money to fight forrest fires in the mid west and california, and to folks like senator Obama who wanted to go back home and say Hey, I got you millions in subsidies for low income home heating That likely had Hugo Chavez (remember that Generous Citco offer to Americans?) on the recieving end...Oh but that's not all...Those on Unemployment found that they got as extra 13 weeks bringing to total from 26 weeks of collecting unemployment ins. pay to 39!!!!
Now this isn't to say McCain is heartless and wouldn't approve the bill but he has a problem with earmarks and holding someone's bill hostage in order to get your goodies slipped through in the trunk. If a bill has merit it should be put out and voted on NOT EARMARKS and that's something I have to admire!
So what was I talking about earlier with Obama and why I suspect Obama didn't really sign on for the troops but rather the Credit and the earmarks???
Well one of the things I liked (or at least used to) about Joe Biden was that when he felt he was right on an issue he fought tooth and nail , he was a man of his conviction whether you agreed or not...but something changed when he got the VP nod from Mr. Obama. Here's a verbatim transcript of Joe Biden who at the time was a candidate for the Democratic Presidential Nomination talking to Tim Russett (May 07)
Tim Russert to Biden "many democrats will say senator Biden is to cut off Funding, everything else is small talk and unless your willing to do that you will not be the democratic nominee!
Biden" If you tell me I've got to take away the protection for these kids, in order to win the election, some things aren't worth it! Some things are worth losing over! That would be worth losing over! Hundreds of lives are being saved,and will be saved by us sending these vehicles over which we are funding with this supplmental legislation. And I want to ask any of my other colleages ...Would they in fact cut off the money for those troops to protect them? That's the right question! This isn't cutting off the war, this is cutting off support, that will SAVE the LIVES of thousands of American troops!
In Spite of Joe saying this to his fellow DNC Candidates Barrack OBAMA Voted Against funding, Body Armor etc..No Fooling..(link at the bottom folks)///So let me ask you if you were in Iraq or Afghanistan are you more concerned about the Body Armor and the Armored Humvees or that McCain's GI Bill might offer a little less then the Webb Bill?
So I have two Questions to the DNC candidates..Senator Obama why did you chose to become upset about Educational funding for Vets after not caring how many were killed due to lack of Body armor?
And Two for Senator Biden... now that your VP what did Barrack give as his reason to Vote AGAINST saving thousands of American Lives? YOUR WORDS NOT MINE!!! Is that water under the bridge of your conscience Joe?...Will it be when your VP and lives are at stake in an Obama presidency and he decides to sacrifice thousands to make another point to someone else?
Obama's vote against funding here...
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00181 and
http://archive.newsmax.com:80/archives/ic/2007/5/25/72454.shtml